and Dalinar whos, what, 50 or so, is actually 68. So she at least had access to Pattern from speaking the I killed my father truth. Though Tyn did manage to hit her hard, eventually Shallan summoned her Shardblade and killed her. Not all of her memories were restored. My lore video on why Salvatore betrays Claude in GTA 3. When attacked, Shallan, having already spoken Radiant ideals, summoned her Shardblade and killed her mother with . Neither shardbearer killed by Arclo the Sleepless drop weapons, therefore Spren bonded blades don't drop when the bearer dies. There is a big difference though, Shallan is the only one we know of that is using her own deadeye blade that she still has some connection to, and did not lose all ofher radiant abilities. Not reliable. She didn't say she feared her. Pattern disagreed with Shallan's assessment that truth was universal, instead claiming that it was based on an individuals experiences. I was thinking about this recently. ", "You came to learn," Shallan said, staring at her map. I mean, yes--that's what it was intended to do. Pattern's personality progression is similar to that of Sylphrena, whence he goes from a primitive, non-communicative state to being able to put together more and more complex thoughts to being able to understand abstract communication. [13] When Lightweaving, Shallan can anchor her illusions to Pattern, allowing them to move and draw Stormlight even when they are not in close proximity to her.[1]. So the real question is in my mind who was she with? Still, he says that he was not in this state when the Knights Radiant existed. Spoilers all the way through Rhythm of War. The friend had won . Further, he feels he can tell Pattern from other Cryptics because there is a spring to Patterns step; he bounces when certain other Cryptics glide.[5]. This would appear to be Pattern's 'true' form. "Unfortunately, no," Darkness said. The storm agitated Pattern, who buzzed angrily and ranted in a foreign tongue, spooking the soldiers whom Shallan had invited to shelter in her cart. That is what those memories would do to me. Score: 4.3/5 (7 votes) . Shallan didn't hear the Shardblade scream when she summoned it, did she? Radiant is trying to peddle the idea that it's Beryl! I don't know why she tried to kill her. Then, 'it' came to the leg of her cot, wrapped around it, and climbed upward and onto her blanket. Shallan's research team has been continuing their studies into the behavior of the dalewillows for the past week, running randomized controlled trials where randomly selected members of the team have an encounter with a new dalewillow. I'll RAFO that, but yes, there is some external influence there. I'm not really sure what Dreder refers to, but it is only lightly implied and not stated that he was the person accompanying Shallan's mother during the incident. Stormlight Archive Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Theres definitely questions about what blade she used at what time. If she'd killed Testament earlier, she would know. - WoR Chapter 42 Epigraph. We know that Shallan sort ofwantedto pin the blame on Beryl, since she was the newest Lightweaver and the one whose betrayal would hurt the least. Did anyone else feel really betrayed after you found out that Pattern was the traitor. [53][54], Later, at another meeting in the library, Pattern reassured Shallan when she began to question her place amongst the scholars. And I don't see any proof that it was a delusion. Judas had a position of trust. There's no step five, because a glow could indicate any number of things. Who is supposed to have spied on him? ("There are still holes in my past..") The next truths can recontextualize previous events. "The lies that drew me." He may have developed somewhat of a romantic interest in Shallan, but there is little to be gained there for him. She outright states her blade is the only one capable of working the gate as it needs to reshape to the lock. Shardplate adds a few inches to his height but still doesnt make him as tall as Kaladin. It is too vague for me. Shallan's questions shifted the conversation towards the existence of spren and in turn to the Voidbringers. And then later Soulcasts a goblet into blood. Pattern was confused by Shallan's decision, not understanding the logic behind her actions, however helped her see into the Cognitive. spren are elements of the Cognitive Realm that have leaked into the physical world. Started by Without meaning to, Shallan used Stormlight and turned a patch of the deck of the ship green, as she began to recreate the memory. I think it has to be the Patternblade. But he made 'first personal contact' on the ship where someone tried to kill Jasnah as a job for the Ghostbloods. Here's a quote from Shallan telling Pattern that the Blade just disappeared as soon as the safe was closed: "Father took you from me," Shallan said, "and tried to hide you in here. It does that that its harder, but pattern has said that they were determined to bond with Shallan. Pattern and his associates followed Shallan to her room within the guest quarters, where she attempted summoning her Shardblade to protect herself, then unintentionally Soulcast a goblet into blood, and masked the act by slicing open her arm. Of screaming and scrambling and hating as those you love are ruined, popped like a boil. Still dont love it, but there was some foreshadowing to it (specifically Shallan saying that Patterns voice was not what she heard when she first Soulcasts), but I think there needs a lot more explanation for me to be fully onboard. . First, if spren can betray their Radiants, this could cause issues for other characters as well. Her mothers arrival, with a friend Shallan didnt recognize, to confront her father. Even though Pattern loves lies, it's noted that he's not very good at telling them himself, and I just don't think that's fake. Heralds may have information about her whereabouts. He is a member of the race of spren called the Cryptics. [57], During the robbery of Nananav, Pattern distracted a pair of guards with Lightwoven sound, while Shallan and Vathah snuck upstairs. Shallan initially describes Pattern as " a sequence of complex lines with sharp angles and arrowhead shapes." The glowing may be a clue to something more interesting or just great visual with a trivial explanation: because they have a connection, You vanished as soon as he closed the strongbox. At the other end of the theory spectrum is the proposal that Judas betrayed Jesus because Judas was a bad guy all alonga wolf in sheep's clothing . Maybe general secret organizations feud or maybe the skybreakers are afraid that the ghostbloods action also might bring the desolations (although we haven`t seen it mentioned when we saw szeth with them). Additionally when she passes the blade to Kaladin in the chasms she tries to speak to Pattern and then remembers that shes given Pattern to Kaladin. Testament was a retcon. [10], Eventually they caught up to the group they had seen in the distance, and found another group of caravaners, who had recently been attacked by bandits. [61][62][63], Transported to the Cognitive Realm, Pattern and the others looked through the beads near the platform to find something they could use get away from the city. She then describes him to Jasnah as a pattern of sharp lines, like a maze, impossibly formed on the surface of a wave in the water in which they were sailing on the Wind's Pleasure. When You Breathe In Your Diaphragm Does What. After the group reached the monastery building, Pattern explored the facility and sought out Talenel'Elin, whom Shallan had been tasked to find, while Veil and Iyatil conned the ardents. In a very religious society, this easily goes the bad way towards killing the supposed Radiant. This is consistent if she were the one to frame Beryl. And if you count an Unmade being there as being corrupted there was an Unmade in the Davar household. Jasnah tells Shallan that she thinks the parshmen are Voidbringers and that she's concerned they'll rebel in the future. [2] Later, she saw him on the cabin wall beside her bunk on the Wind's Pleasure,[3] acting like a newly bonded spren. Cookie Notice . Pattern's report worried Shallan, who was uncomfortable at how Tvlakv viewed her as little more than a slave. Too convenient? Additionally, Shallan has her memories with Testament, including Testament's death. He goes on to hint at the truth by telling Shallan he can die and that she'll be sent another cryptic to bond, as we know has already happened once and he is that replacement. She has few memories of him during that time, but the extent of Patterns involvement in her childhood is revealed in later flashbacks. "Mmm " Pattern said. Thanks, and I'm glad I was almost certainly wrong! 3) Heralds knew her location and didn't want her free(I believe Kalak changed his mind after Everstorm). But it does actually line up with other information we have. After confronting Iyatil, who had been watching the tree, Shallan travelled with the woman to Dalinar's warcamp, having Pattern distract Iyatil, while she gained them access. Home | About | Contact | Copyright | Privacy | Cookie Policy | Terms & Conditions | Sitemap. I mean, this is a cryptic that decided to bond a human before almost any other spren tried. Veil, Radiant thought. After all there is that Ghostblood - Davar family connection. [2], Pattern, eager to learn more about human reasoning, was curious as to why Shallan had decided to continue on to the Shattered Plains and try to seek Urithiru. Yes when Shallan first talks to Pattern he tries to tell her more. Wit was being spied on by a Sleepless disguising one of its cremlings as a pen - which could actually be Mraize himself, as I've seen theories speculating he could be a rogue Sleepless. [5] On occasion he can also manifest as a floating three-dimensional mass of twisting lines. Shallan called on Pattern to help her transition to the Cognitive Realm when she confronted Jasnah about the fake Soulcaster, and confessed to him that she had killed her father. The people my mother knewDredernever came to our house. Has he been a Ghostblood agent from the beginning, sent to Shallan? I'm expecting we'll find out a lot more about how Deadeye spren work in the next book, as we deal more with the Recreance and with Maya. Watching him kill Mother? Jushu pulled away from her, cursing softly to himself. Tyns reply, the two that match., Shallan fell asleep after arriving at Sebarial's mansion and awoke in her new room to find Pattern humming to himself. Edit: Please take what I'm saying about DID with a grain of salt. [59][60], The next day, Shallan and Pattern returned to the Oathgate platform to face Ashertmarn, while the others tried to take control of the palace. For a while one of the biggest mysteries on the 17th Shard was how Shallan managed to regress on her oaths (which she didn't, unless you count killing yourspren and then bonding a new one as doing so). Jasnah was murdered by mercenaries associated with Tyn who were trying to get into the Ghostbloods. Whereupon Adolin is promptly seized and put in chains despite his obvious wound. [3], When she finishes, the pattern rises before her and she hears a distinct sigh from the paper, as if in relief. [67][68], Escaping Celebrant aboard Honor's Path, Pattern and his companions were locked away by the honorspren during the first week of their journey. The only evidence people seem to have is the difference in Shardblades. [10], Pattern softly hums a reply: Indulge. I bet if aeolian were to bond a spren, Maya would not scream. Now, I know the first reaction of many of you would be to point out . None of the men, however, brought up the incident, which Shallan attributed to their expectation for strangeness during the highstorm. Care to share with me what that foreshadowing was? [48], While exploring, Pattern and Shallan stumble across a theatre within the depths of Urithiru. Tom Doherty Associates. There is some overlap between whatever Shallan has and DID, but really her condition is quite different. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Jasnah wore the Davar Soulcaster for some time, not realizing it was broken since her own Soulcaster was a decoy. But you are right, she was indeed involved. To the whole deadeye screaming, the answerlies in oathbringer. You must speak truths." However, the only verifiable delivery was very small in size and there is no indication that Ahlers knew about people in hiding in the Secret Annex. She died before her husband, who was later remarried to Malise Gevelmar. In doing so, Shallan realized that the Oathgate was a fabrial and using Pattern, she activated the platform, transporting those outside to Urithiru and saving the Alethi army. Posted October 12, 2014. . I will update this post if it turns out anything I've said is inaccurate. Above, he found the crew members of the Wind's Pleasure, one of them dead and the rest tied up and at the mercy of the attackers. [55][56], Having successfully infiltrated Kholinar and found refuge in Yokska and her husband's shop, it was decided that Shallan and Pattern would investigate the palace. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. There's definitely questions about what blade she used at what time. Shallan eventually revealed to Jasnah that she had swapped the fabrials after she was poisoned by the ardent Kabsal. [16][17], "Lightweavers make no oaths beyond the first . [12], Their efforts were unsuccessful and it soon became apparent that the caravan was being followed. As Shallan reflected on his comment, she was reminded of the artist Eleseth, as she had chosen spheres of only one color, to lend light while she drew. Following Adolin's lead, Pattern and Syl imitated the Lightwoven people, slashing randomly at the space around them. Rhythm of War is an epic fantasy novel written by American author Brandon Sanderson and the fourth book in The Stormlight Archive series. Huge spoilery theory thread that started in 2020 & has been consolidated & is being actively updated: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/95749-theory-taln-wasnt-the-herald-who-broke-it-was-chanarach/, I think the shining soul might have been the shardblade? But if they were the culprits, then why didnt her father sell her out? Shallan. That type of character will not lead to a deep hatred of the one that they bonded. [13], Her attempt at building a fire a failure, Shallan decided to walk inland, Pattern at her feet and eventually the pair stumbled upon the campsite of Tvlakv and his fellow slavers, where Shallan, exhausted, collapsed. "A powerful lie "[18], Pattern has the ability to read ancient languages - such as Dawnchant - as they are written in a "pattern" according to him. [4][30], Humans can see the world as it is not. During the exchange, Pattern whispered a translation of the conversation to Shallan. Of course it's not entirely impossible that Wit has a Seon. This might not be the case for knights bonding to the blade of a spren they killed. Op is asking about Tyn, the ghost blood kind-of-agent that Shallan traveled with onthe way to the Shattered Plains and killed with a blade, not Lin her father. I'm happy it turned out to be a misunderstanding and Pattern had a reasonable explanation for this. Over the years Vin would hear Reen's voice in the back of her head, always suspicious, cynical, and distrustful. [18], "It's all right," Shallan said in a hushed voice as the wind died down. 1. 1) The thing that bothers me is that Shallan saw the presumable blade in the locked strongbox long after she killed her mother. Having not understood the connotations of the meeting, he asked if Shallan wanted to speak with the other woman, having assumed Shallan and Iyatil to now be friends. I support the theory that Shallan's mother was a Herald. That is the truth that you spoke to me, the truth that brings power., The highstorm came later that night. While capable of silently blending in with his surroundings, which has proven useful when spying on people, Pattern has a tendency to vibrate audibly when excited or anxious. I also don't know that I think that in the end Pattern betrayed her. Timbre is a lightspren from Roshar who has bonded Venli. Shallan saw several Cryptics in Kharbranth, Pattern might have been one of them. Pattern and Shallan gave chase, following Re-Shephir through the halls of Urithiru, where it tried to escape, first by hiding within the shadows then squeezing through a hole in the wall. That That means. My question is, why? Thus, Radiant could have told Mraize the information about the gloryspren at one point to "protect" Shallan. Though it still remains that so many facts make a lot more sense assuming that Shallan bonded 2 Spren rather than 1, the thread was posted earlier but I'll do it again. Finally, he buzzed an approximation of a laugh. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 FAQS Clear - All Rights Reserved There are a few possibilities, though I am very much torn about who she could have been part of. Even as he struggled to form coherent sentences, Pattern was able to understand the concepts of truth and lies as well as identify lies told by others. And she summons the blade faster than ten seconds. It gives you strength. She manages to use Lightweaving when she meets Wit as a child. "One is almost certainly a traitor to the others.". [3], While the spren had problems with understanding simple tasks such as eating, Shallan had found him to take readily to complex thought, particularly abstraction. Join the revel. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. After all, Shallan possessed powers, unseen from the times of the Radiants, and the only thing worse than a Radiant are Voidbringers according to Vorinism (at least my impression of it). It first I though it must be the ghost bloods but as has been pointed out they are willing to allow surge binders in their organization as shown at the end of the book when Malaize (or however you spell that) says he wants Shallan to join the Ghostbloods in some split personality way. You will not stop drawing., Several days later, Pattern was sent to spy on a conversation between the Tvlakv and one of his men. Each time, when she looked right at him, he vanished. I think Shallan's mother was just scared of what her daughter was. Shallan's mother obviously learned her parenting skills from Stephen King. Privacy Policy. In the distance, Shallan could hear the ships crew being executed and to buy them time asked Pattern for his help in Soulcasting the boat. [29], A week later, Pattern decoded a few phrases of Dawnchant while studying with Shallan. Adolin with Mayalaran is the obvious example, but I think it applies to Shallan and the Cryptics as well. [44], In her rooms, Shallan practiced manipulating sound, while Pattern watched and commented. [43][44], You were talking about mating! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. He explains that his memory returns slowly, but that he is pleased at the chance.Missing parameters, Pattern's insistence that Shallan reclaim herself and her abilities finally hits home. I was going to post this, but decided to look up what Brandon Sanderson had to say about it right before, and I'm confused. The Skybreakers wouldn't care about her at that point, as she was no longer a Radiant. In the text, there is doubt raised as to whether or not she needs the ten heartbeats to summon the blade. Pattern helps Shallan escape the sinking ship. [66], When the group reached Celebrant they split in two, with Pattern joining Shallan, Azure and Mayalaran to try and find a ship willing to transport them. When he began to talk about her past, Shallan tuned him out, instead working on an illusion of Sebarial. Pattern is the name Shallan gives to the Cryptic spren with whom she bonds. I know later it turned out that he was only trying to help Shallan, but when Shallan realized Pattern betrayed her, honestly thought that Pattern was actually a super evil double agent spy or something like that. A subreddit to discuss all aspects of Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. What am I missing? Kindle Edition. Realizing that the Fused oversaw the port inspections, Shallan Lightwove disguises to hid the group, when Kyril came to interrogate the registrar on their whereabouts. By the end of Words of Radiance, Adolin is 25 years old. Further, he tells Shallan that she will eventually betray her oaths, thereby breaking his mind, leaving him dead. was he truly that loyal to her? I mean, when the Lost were united, they were a force to be reckoned with. I was dumb so long, nearly dead. That would've been interesting. Hoidtalked to somethingsimilar to a Seon, but it wasn't a regular Seon and it didn't seem to follow him offworld. I don't honestly know. 7) Hence, Testament could have been working with the Ghostbloods. Jasnah, upon finding Shallan, had the other women transported to hospital. After all, when the recreance happened all the spren got stuck as blades in the physical realm. When Shallan reached out to touch the Unmade, Re-Shephir tried to remove her bond with Pattern, to instead replace him with herself. To preempt the possibility that his behavior would begin to match his thinking, Shallan confronted the slaver, insinuating she was aware of his scheming and reminding him of her promise of payment. He is able to perfectly reproduce conversations and circumambient noise - even from a distance - using vibrations directed at the source of the conversation. The only storming one. I can be what I am because I cut them off. [40][41][42], You live lies. [69][70][71], Finding the Thaylen Oathgate guarded by half a dozen Fused, Pattern, along with Syl, Adolin, and Maya, dispersed themselves amongst Shallan's illusions to distract the guards while Shallan tried to open the Oathgate. She hadn't had bonded to Pattern at that time. Did she progress to the 5th ideal when she confronted this 'truth'? Support me o. [2], Raised, like an embossing, it had a complex pattern with a haunting symmetry. Kid Shallan breaks oath - Testament unbonds, -- speculation -- Shallan bonds Testament with a gem (leaves it at home? Why the Herald would freak out and try to kill her daughter because she was a Radiant?Trying to protect the secret of Mishram's location is more plausible. Mainly those, and then I saw people posting about describing different colors for her blades. was he under external pressure which caused him to crack? Sanderson admits his other books will be a tougher sell as movies. Of course, the sword likely vanished soon after, as Shardblades are wont to do. [1]. Hmmm ok looking through it. At first I would have agreed, it just seemed too easy, especially because I wanted Pattern to not actually be betraying Shallan. [15], He formed in her hands, the Blade she'd used to kill. [22][23], Truth is individual. Shallan responded to Pattern, telling him that she only wanted her family, not revenge. I think her being a ghostblood makes the most sense. [51][52], Within the now empty library rooms, Pattern could sense the memories contained within the hidden gem archive. That his kind are too static. After breaking the news to Kabsal that she would be leaving, the ardent requested a portrait as she had not yet created one of him. Shallan could be bonded to pattern without interacting with him yet. We know now that it wasn't another GB agent who killed Ialai, but Radiant. Said that if I didnt come, youd probablyand I quotego do something stupid without letting me watch., The Unmade was encountered again, this time in the Breakaway, after it had killed another, this time mimicking an execution. Shallan explained to Pattern the purpose of the room, then, with Stormlight from the recent highstorm to aid her, Lightwove the tale of The Girl Who Looked Up. We know Pattern was talking to Wit -- that was confirmed later on, so I see no reason to doubt the above is what happened. Pattern says that his real name is composed of many numbers, making it difficult to say. Unfortunately for the pair, this meant that Pattern could not unlock the room containing the food, forcing them to find another way into the room. The war was fought over control of the western Powder River Country in present north-central . Re-Shephir's attempts to break their bond failed and it fled, afraid of the damage that could be caused by Shallan. It is time for the Oathpact to end." [9], Pattern is fascinated by concepts that mix truths and falsehoods, such as flattery, sarcasm, and even figures of speech like metaphors. ive read through that topic and the other piece of evidence is it wouldnt be the first time Shallan betrayed someone close to her. Judas failed to understand who Jesus really was, even to the end. Did he know she wasn't ready for the whole truth? [1][34][35], Im sorry that your mystical, godlike powers do not instantly work as you would like them to., This new discovery came in useful several days later, when Pattern, attached to an image of Veil, was sent to 'retrieve' the instructions left in a tree by the Ghostbloods. In her coach, Shallan practiced her Lightweaving, while Pattern watched. Before they continued on, Pattern went to seek out Adolin, and bring him, along with additional soldiers, back to the newly discovered passage way. My memory is weak. From Edgedancer chapter 9, Edgedancer Spoiler from a post by Dantlee. The reason the spren killed by the Recreance are all blades is because they were manifested as blades in the physical realm at the moment the radiants broke their oaths. We also need to remember thatsomeonetold Mraize that Shallan had seen a corrupted gloryspren. Almost two weeks later, Renarin uncovered the hidden gemstones archive. [8] I can't speak as to her first bonding, but it seems to me that Brandon is leading towards the idea that only a person bonded to a deadeye somehow can return it to its normal form. Though he stayed silent during the meeting with the Highprince's, Shallan found herself having to quiet him during her ride to Sebarial's camp, to prevent him being noticed by the Highprince. Pattern wanted to protect Shallan a bit from the horror of what she's done I think. She realizes that a pen could never capture this 'thing' perfectly. I just read it and Chapter 2 is the first meeting with Syl, but thats her talking and Syl later states that shed been following for a while. I'm still not quite 100% sure there was no spy, but I think it's plausible that Mraize was making an educated guess, knowing that he didn't send any additional agents (or maybe he did, and that person saw Radiant do it). Yes, yes. According to her, Ahlers played a role in the transactions because he had a hold over Frank and later betrayed the people in hiding in the Secret Annex to an SD detective. When Adolin kissed Shallan, Pattern intervened to remind them of his presence. Yet, he cannot fully explain it because language is insufficient; he would need numbers. Eventually, during the Battle of Narak, her bond with Pattern allowed her to become the first Lightweaver to be revealed as a Knight Radiant since the Recreance. Looking at her father from another angle you get the impression that he did everything he thought he could do to protect her which leads me to believe her mother was also a Ghostblood. Her mother's arrival, with a friend Shallan didn't recognize, to confront her father. And later we get the conversation between Pattern and Shallan where Pattern is 100% convinced that some day Shallan will kill him. I was in denial in the beginning but I also thought it would've been interesting to see a dysfunctional Radiant-spren relationship or one where the spren is the "leader" of the pair, instead of magical companion, like the spren just goes I Bonded you for this purpose, so I can use our powers to this end. This one has been explained but I wasnt overall happy with it - Testamant should have appeared during Oathbringer Shadesmar trip. Theory 2: Judas was bad from the beginning. I'm impressed by how well pattern was able to lie given that he was just pulled through to the physical realm. [5], The Cryptics have a fearful reputation, and yet this one the first specimen Ive ever seen seems . [10] At some point, his desire to study humans led him to transfer his mind to the Physical Realm and bond Shallan, even though he believed she would kill him, as she had killed her first spren, Testament. - Rhythm of War, Chapter 30, Page 410 of the U.S. Hardcover. 3. I still don't think this is the case, but crazier theories have been right before. But, he says, the opportunity is worth the cost . After the meeting, Pattern returned with Shallan to her rooms, where she found a note from the Ghostbloods. I am just not convinced. 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