October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. Even though my eggs were older as I was 37 at the time, versus 35 when I started, we transferred 2 and were successful with a singleton. Only 1 retrieved, which didnt fertilize. And I followed it up with "And unfortunately, it's not my 2nd or 3rd either." Are you sure you want to block this member? Femara-Antagonist Protocol. My first two cycles yielded one lousy frozen each. Corpus Christi, TX 78413. What now - IUI, Adoption, Donor Eggs or Donor Embryos, Retire Early?! We knew we wanted more kids so we started trying again when he turned one. Multiple research studies have compared IVF agonist and antagonist protocols with most showing similar pregnancy rates. Hello! I am also doing acupuncture for 3 months. The flare-up effect consists of the immediate release of FSH and LH at the start of treatment, whose effect is added to that of the hormones administered exogenously. Dont get discouraged. We've been trying for 3 years. They did ICSE and both, I was reading another post about the cost of meds. Second retrieval was agonist with lupron, and we ended up with two decent quality embryos (3BB, 4BB), one of which became my newborn daughter, who I am currently breastfeeding. Ipersonally didnt want to put my body thru all those meds again so we just adopted 3 young healthyembryos from a family similar to ours and we are so excited our son will end up with a sibling or maybe two! Once down regulation was obtained, the lupron dose was decreased to 0.125 mg daily and gonadotropin stimulation was initiated. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. thanks! No frosties. Thanks in advance! Can someone explain to me the difference in the protocols? Decided to cancel on day 9. I did lupron stop protocol for IVF#1, but I was still oversuppressed. Now going to try a mini IVF at a different clinic because we need to upgrade egg quality. Advanced Fertility Care Injection Teaching Videos. In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. %%EOF I'm very puzzled as why my RE will recommend something that could potentially cause my c, Hi ladies, I know I did Gonal-F because I'd never done it before (I was a follistim lady prior) - I can check tonight and see what it was. Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. Good luck! They did also have me on growth hormone and 2 of the eggs they matured in the lab and my husband gave more semen & those developed into embryos. My second we moved from an antagonist to a Lupron stop protocol with PICSI and wound up with 8 embryos, 3 of which were PGS normal. No MFI at all. 0000017159 00000 n My AFC was 7 on day 3. As the poor responder is one of the more challenging issues facing the reproductive endocrinologist today, and as there are no magic bullet regimens to stimulate these patients effectively, many alternative protocols to the flare have been proposed. I am just terrified it will be like my last cycle. I did this protocol for my cycle. They are concerned about egg quality. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. Now I wait for day 5 and then onto to PGTA testing. I need some bad-a$$ ladies to battle this with. And where there is variation? I see a lot of people have taken Lupron. :), I'm confused by all the information out there for women over 40. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. I do have DOR and Endo, Amh 0.69. afc and fish comparable to yours or slightly worse. I did microdoselupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). 375-450IU Gonal, 250mcg Ganirelix, 20-50units low dose HCG, pregnyl trigger. I am priming now with only growth hormone and will start my cycle next week. 0000009528 00000 n 39 year old multiple failed cycles need advice. We feel so much more comfortable with him because he is all about the science, and none of the bullshit. I'm super excited for you, yay!!! In addition, your chance of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome is less with GnRH antagonist protocols. October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. New Braunfels, TX 78130, 18707 Hardy Oak Blvd, Ste. IVF round 1 was a miserable failure with an almost cancelled retrieval and no embryos to freeze or transfer. For my IVF cycle I was on bcps for two weeks. Estrogen Primed Antagonist Protocol. Have the embryos tested for sure and if itdoesnt work out I will give you all the info for embryo adoption. I'm the poster child for lupron flair. My first retrieval was an antagonist protocol, and we only got one poor quality embryo (3CB). Create an account or log in to participate. IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. After taking a break from infertility to regroup (in which I drank approximately 20 drinks in one evening and was hungover until 7pm the following day, oops), we had out WTF conf call with our RE to go over what happened last cycle/ get some closure/ get a game plan for next time. I wrote a post yesterday before I even read up on this type of protocol. Maybe it is too soon for bloating. I am 42. - Estrogen patch 14 days, prio, Hi all, Our patients visit Texas Fertility Center to achieve their dreams of having a baby. 1 Call nurse with cd1 Start Microdose (md) Lupron twice daily and continue to take estradiol stopping on cycle day 10 units md Lupron Estradiol 2mg 10 units md Lupron A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. Did they convert to IUI? Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. My FSH is 12. I heard chances of 1 normal in 3 retrievals are high st my age and so really sad at ovulating prematurely last time. NT- all looks good. I'm sorry to hear about your 2 unsuccessful transfers. Lupron Depot is used in men to treat the symptoms of prostate cancer (but does not treat the cancer itself). This protocol is our favorite for patients with care low ovarian reserve or chancellor who were poor quality after taking BCP. I did microdose lupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. The Antagonist protocol uses Lupron as its trigger, rather than hCG, and Lupron's properties dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate. HOORAY. Completely unexplained - sperm count is fine. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol . 0000002680 00000 n Moving forward with CCRM in 2013 Called the flare, the microdose flare, or the low dose Lupron protocol, this regimen uses the same medications as the Lupron overlap protocol. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. SCHEDULE. I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. numbness or tingling of the hands or feet. 0000003164 00000 n I would like to know if any has been on the EPP/ MDL protocol ? think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Thanks! 14 and 13. Have you transferred? From what I have read, it is common in women with DOR and poor responders. I just pray it works. And offer a ivf protocol. with this protocol, and a general timeline for when things happen when you don't do BCP suppression beforehand New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Previos Post Next Post So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. Unfortunately, one of them did not thaw successfully. The most commonly prescribed stimulation protocol in the United States uses BCPs, leuprolide acetate (Lupron) to prevent ovulation, gonadotropins such as follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) or human menopausal gonadotropin (hMG) to cause the eggs to develop, human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) to cause the eggs to mature, and progesterone to support the lining. What was the quality of your embryos? I have only ever done 150 and 225 and responded very well. I'm 42 y/o and had my 2nd egg retrieval on 4/16. I hate long stims. When I talked with ccrm on the phone, it sounds like I'll be doing EPP with my next cycle (also #4 for me!).. Beta 2 = 4822 7wk u/s= 2 heartbeats! fainting. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. You start today right?!? First ivf was luteal lupron protocol. Valium(1 tab) Long awaited FET on 9/3. How many days do you take menopur for IVF? While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to . 0000005824 00000 n With IVF#2, we did MDL. We started our IVF journey in 2014. Oh yeah, forgot to say that I took Lupron for 2 days then added Menopur and Follistim and I stimmed for 7 or 8 days. I am excited to read all the success stories. I went through Dr. Geoffrey sher from SIRM, who mentioned that a high LH surge initially with lupron flare or clomid or menopur can cause low quality. I definitely dont feel like myself but not as bloated yet. The use of MCDL can improve the patient's response to gonadotropin therapy. 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