Most have thrown out the clothes they wore on the bus. People around me really noticed it.". 3:24 Mother of Tim McLean, murdered and beheaded aboard a Greyhound bus in 2008, reacts to Vince Lis release. New Videologue to be posted thisThursday! It's a slow process.". WebEl 30 de Julio de 2008, Tim McLean, de 22 aos de edad, se encontraba viajando en autobs desde Alberta a Manitoba (Canad) junto a varios pasajeros. THE BIZARRE DEATH OF THE TOXIC LADY GLORIA RAMIREZ, WHY FIFTY SHADES IS PHENOMENALLY POPULAR WITH (some) WOMEN. McLean, a 22-year-old Canadian man, was stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized while riding a Greyhound Canada bus about 30 km west of Portage la Prairie, Manitoba travelling the Trans-Canada Highway. I also served as a marksman (sniper) on SAS-trained Emergency Response Teams, so Ive got a bit of experience around life and death. Vince Li moved through the justice system quickly. We should not lose sight of what occurred because it does speak to the threat, she said. God chose me as the killer and God chose Tim as the victim. "Some days go by now without me thinking of it. Finally, on February 10, 2017 Vince Lee was declared completely stable and reliable to function on his own, including regulating his own medseven though all psychiatrists agree schizophrenia is an incurable mental disease. "I used to be the type to walk around and feel safe. Vince Weiguang Li (L), suspect in the murder of Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, is escorted by sheriff officers on his way to a court appearance in Portage la Prairie August 5, 2008. Tim McLean was a 22 year old carnival worker who was returning to his small town in Manitoba to visit his family and friends. They were quick to form a conclusion without exploring the entire circumstances in a full and open trial. That was the toughest hour and 10 minutes I've ever been through." Li turned and made eye contact. He said he called him back and left him a message asking him for the dates he needed off but never heard back from him. Video, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Prince Andrew offered Frogmore Cottage - reports, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, Bieber cancels remaining Justice world tour dates, Havana Syndrome unlikely to have hostile cause - US, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Man survives 31 days in jungle by eating worms, Beer and wine sales in Canada fall to all-time low, Covid origin likely China lab incident - FBI chief. In July 2008, Vince Li stabbed, mutilated, and beheaded 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada Highway west of Winnipeg. Enter your email address below and get your FREE eBook IN THE ATTIC A Psychological Thriller Based on a True Crime Story. Manitobas Criminal Code Review Board announced Friday it has given Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, an absolute discharge, meaning he is longer subject to monitoring. Particularly psychiatric degrees. Around 8:30 pm, Greyhound 1170 was an hour west of Winnipeg on the TransCanada Highway. WAS MARILYN MONROES DEATH ACTUALLY A HOMICIDE? Mountie who responded to bus beheading dies by suicide. ", Follow Patrick White on Twitter: @Nut_GrafOpens in a new window. WebThe killing of Tim McLean occurred on the evening of July 30, 2008 and is noted for being a beheading and cannibalism death in Canada. You can argue lack of intent due to mental incapacity all day long. "I had no odd suspicions about him at all. "I'm back there every day," said Marlene Gregory, who boarded the bus July 30 in Erickson, Man. Its also about whats wrong with a broken criminal justice (legal) system and the strange world of forensic psychiatry. The man at the wheel, Bernie Scyrup, had been driving for more than 35 years. WebThe killing of Tim McLean occurred on the evening of 30 July 2008. TAKE THIS TEST AND FIND OUT. Vincent Augert, an independent contractor who distributes newspapers in Edmonton, said that Li, was one of his most reliable carriers. The news was broadcast across the world, because of the particular and additional gruesomeness of the murder. Others have lost jobs, dropped grades, committed crimes. In the early stages, everyone in authority agreed Vince Li wasnt operating in a normal mindset. Some information may no longer be current. ", After a standoff, Baker surrendered to police and faced a charge of second-degree murder. He'd seen it all, this was nothing. DID LIZZIE BORDEN REALLY AX-MURDER HER PARENTS? His mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, and said the company - which has restored, scrubbed and renumbered bus 1170, and is running it in another province - should take it off the road. Twenty two year old Tim McLean got on to the 1170 Greyhound bus at Edmonton, Aberta, Canada. At least, hes stuck in Canada. Twenty two year old Tim McLean got on to the 1170 Greyhound bus at Edmonton, Aberta, Canada. But shortly after the killing, the e-mail addresses and phone numbers Greyhound provided stopped working. When there was talk, it was more an argument than anything. Baker sat next to the 22-year-old McLean on the bus after the young man smiled at him and asked how he was doing. HOW TO WRITE A BOOK: JERRY B. JENKINS TELLS EVERYTHING IN 20 STEPS, MOUNT EVEREST WORLDS HIGHEST AND MOST DEADLY OPEN GRAVEYARD, OUR TOP 20 SPIRITUAL INFLUENCERS ALIVE TODAY, HOW WEB CONTENT WRITING WILL MAKE YOU A FAR BETTER WRITER, SUN DANCE FATAL LAST WORDS FROM FAMOUS FOLKS, HOW TO SCAM NIGERIAN FUNDS FOR YOUR TIME MACHINE, FATAL FLAW WHAT REALLY CAUSED THE TITANIC TRAGEDY, THE TIPPING POINT FOR BEST SELLING AUTHORS, COURTROOM COMEDY GREAT LINES FROM GOOFY LAWYERS, GILBERT PAUL JORDANTHE BOOZING BARBER SERIAL KILLER, HOW TO AVOID BEING MURDERED BY A SERIAL KILLER, THE NGI REALITY IN CRIMINAL IDENTIFICATIONS NEXT GENERATION SYSTEM, ARE YOU A PSYCHOPATH? The Guy On The Greyhound Bus was Vince Weiguang Li, a 40-year-old Chinese immigrant to Canada who left Edmonton, Alberta eastbound for Winnipeg in the Province of Manitoba. The bus contained many passengers, including Tim Mclean. Baker, a diagnosed schizophrenic, had been living on his own since November but was still being monitored. Im a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Serious Crimes detective and investigator with the British Columbia Coroners Service. "They are native prayers, Ojibway prayers," she said from her home in Erickson. "I have no comment today," Carol de Delley wrote on Facebook. WebThe killing of Tim McLean occurred on the evening of July 30, 2008 and is noted for being a beheading and cannibalism death in Canada. This week, a criminal review board in Manitoba decided to lock up Vince Li, the knife-wielding man in their nightmares, in a high-security psychiatric ward for a year. Passengers fled the bus and stood outside. Augert said that Li called him two weeks ago saying that he needed a day or two off to go to Winnipeg for a job interview at the end of July. Its also the overall concepts of punishment, holding an offender accountable no matter what their mental state and ensuring the public is properly protected from future danger. McLean estaba quedndose dormido On a recent flight from Calgary to Winnipeg, he started sweating. U.S. only. Then Li stood. Baker said that he heard the voice of God telling him to kill McLean. Men puked. Almost all of us grew up eating meat, wearing leather, and going to circuses and zoos. COULD YOU WITHSTAND CIA ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES? Now Li had Tim on the aisle floor, still plunging and plunging. How the public should be forced to take a chance on an unsupervised nut who committed the most barbaric act of public murder and cannibalism Ive ever heard of is plain stupid. Its like theyve never ridden a bus filled with the common folks theyre supposed to serve. ELISA LAMS GHASTLY DEATH AT THE NOTORIOUS CECIL HOTEL IN L.A. But you simply cant kill a deranged man in this situation. The dude filming it is a total dweeb. And male calves are starved and chained inside tiny stalls until their flesh becomes soft and milky white before being slaughtered for someones veal dinner. How Has Cruelty to Animals Funded the Worlds Wealthiest Person? Friends lost a guy whod give them the shirt off his back never mind a laugh from their innards. I will say, yes, he absolutely understands that he has to (take his medication) and has a desire to live a responsible, moral life and never succumb to psychotic episodes and not to hurt anybody ever again., First published on February 10, 2017 / 8:31 PM. They relied on expert opinions from forensic psychiatric witnesses who were clinically detached from the scene. AWESOME!!! The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in 1999 that a review board must order an absolute discharge if a person doesnt pose a significant threat to public safety. BRINGING LIFE TO THE DEAD WITH CGI TECHNOLOGY, SCHMEGELSKY & MCLEOD: THE SENSELESS STORY OF TWO KILLER KIDS, THIRTEEN TERRIBLY CLOSE CALLS WITH NUCLEAR BOMB ACCIDENTS, IS THE MEANING OF LIFE A HAM SANDWICH? "And then when I found out in the news that Li was being pinned for the brutal attack, I was in utter shock," he said. When the criminal court system washed their hands of Vince Li, the mental health system took over. Barkers family is speaking out about the suicide with the hope that more RCMP members will seek help. But his doctors told Manitoba's Criminal Code Review Board that he understood that he needed to take the medication and that he would continue with his treatment if released. As some passengers dozed, a scream that still haunts them drowned out the movie, and a scene of unthinkable gore painted everything red. Parts of McLeans ear, Mentally ill man who beheaded a bus passenger is freed from all supervision. The Greyhound made a rest stop about a half hour earlier. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim of circumstances much like the pedestrian creamed in a crosswalk by a drunk. 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On July 30, 2008, just after midnight, Greyhound bus 1170 departed on a 24-hour journey to British Columbia. Tim McLean slept with headphones in his ears aboard Greyhound bus 1170 as he prepared for the 24-hour journey to Winnipeg to visit family and his girlfriend, Colleen. A man with schizophrenia who beheaded a fellow bus passenger in Canada in 2008 has been granted freedom. 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Li wanted a victim and Tim McLean was it. Tim McLean Was Traveling Home From A Work Trip The Day He Was Killed Tim McLean had recently taken up employment as a carnival barker when he boarded Greyhound Canada bus 1170 on July 30, 2008. "Since that day, it's been hard to go out, hard to meet new people," he said. Hes not accountable for his crime in any way. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. At the hearing, Mr. McLean's family read a chilling impact statement detailing their shattered lives. DeSantis won't say he's running. One witness described Baker as being calm during the attack saying, "there was no rage or anything. El joven escuchaba msica cmodamente, sin siquiera imaginar lo que su compaero de asiento, Vince Weiguang Li, de 44 aos, estaba por hacerle. Thats when hellish horror happened. Beheaded on a bus: the murder of Tim McLean | by Victoria Suzanne | Crime Scenes | Medium 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. He bought that knife and he bought those plastic bags well in advance. IS A SERIAL KILLER LOOSE ON THE HIGHWAY OF TEARS? I actually remember this from when I was little kid. Visit image gallery to purchase the image. Public protection was not. Mr. Martin called 911. Part Jeffrey Dahmer. A man with schizophrenia who beheaded a fellow bus passenger in Canada in 2008 has been granted freedom. Everybody gets off of the bus and goes through a quick interview process. Carefully, he looked at each passenger before reaching the second row from the rear. I bet they purchased insurance for their bag, like I do, because if that bus blows up, everybodys luggage goes with it. Ive traveled by Greyhound to Montreal once, and I remember being taken into secondary here. Now that Vince Li was out of the courts and jails, he was in the care of mental health care workers. The Associated Press contributed to this report. If I were in a situation like this, I would take advantage of the break, stretch, enjoy a smoke and gather some video footage. Want to discuss? He repeatedly stabbed McLean while the McLean fought for his life. Bipartisan Senate group unveils rail safety bill in response to Ohio derailment, What to know about Shigella bacteria as drug-resistant strain spreads, Family and friends of victim Tim McLean, wearing t-shirts remember him, enter the Law Courts in Winnipeg, Canada, March 3, 2009 prior to the trial of Vince Li. On July 30, 2008, Tim McLean boarded Greyhound bus 1170, bound for Winnipeg, Canada. Mr McLean's mother, who had opposed granting Mr Baker freedom, said she had "no words" following the decision on Friday. Theres no system oversight. Text UGLY to 73822 to tell UGGs to choose vegan materials and stop supporting the mutilation and violent killing of sheep! I done everything I could. Bakers defenders include Chris Summerville, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, who has met and worked with him over the years. ", A Winnipeg therapist has been helping Ms. Gregory, but she has not asked for, or received, any assistance from Greyhound. ", Even huddled away from outdoor reminders, she can't avoid mental cues at home. "The review board is of the opinion that the weight of evidence does not substantiate that Mr Baker poses a significant threat to the safety of the public," the review board said in a written decision. This summer, Mr. Allison is working at a children's camp in the Northwest Territories. That night, there was a second Greyhound bus trailing 1170. The Vince LiTim McLean case is no exception. Parts of McLeans ear, Eight vehicles plunged into the water, including a Greyhound Bus. "I used to be so independent. IS SCIENTOLOGY A CRAZY CULT AND BIG FAT GLOBAL SCAM? Since this murder happened in Canada, the cannibal was found not criminally responsible for the killing. The RCMP issued a statement saying it was aware that portions of the radio transmission had been leaked to the internet but that it had not given permission to use the tape because they are "operational police communications" that are not meant for public consumption. This not criminally responsible due to a mental disability loophole goes too far. It was then that Mr. Scyrup realized what the deranged man was doing. These guys can get crazier than The Guy on the Greyhound Bus. Li paraded Tims lifeless headback and forthup and downalong the parked Greyhounds aisle. Judgment passed that Li was not criminally responsible for Tims murder due to psychosis caused by untreated schizophrenia. Passengers said that shortly after they reboarded following a break, the suspect - for no apparent reason - stabbed the man sitting next to him several dozen times as others fled in horror. The standoff, that is. They don't care to recount the rest. Period.. Vince Weiguang Li, 40, faces second-degree murder charges for the murder of a 22-year-old man, who friends and family identified as Tim McLean. The bus pulled over near Portage la Prairie, and Li continued mutilating McLeans body. Get a roundup of the most important and intriguing national stories delivered to your inbox every weekday. Tim McLean slept with headphones in his ears aboard Greyhound bus 1170 as he prepared for the 24-hour journey to Winnipeg to visit family and his girlfriend, Colleen. An empty apartment and a full future awaited in the capital city. Part Norman Bates. Trucker Chris Alguire had been hauling a load of steel pipe when he saw the two buses pulled to the side of the Trans-Canada. Li got remanded to a psych facility, and he is currently allowed to visit his hometown. He has no family, no friends, no support and no supervision. Public protection is low on their scale. It was a trip she made often, but hasn't since. Now Li moved toward the back. INTERCONNECT FINDING YOUR PLACE, PURPOSE AND MEANING IN THE UNIVERSE. Even the judge. LINDY CHAMBERLAIN DID A DINGO REALLY GET HER BABY? But after a smoke break, she saw him move to the rear, beside Mr. McLean. https://www.bookbub.com/profile/garry-rodgers. The 22-year-old had been working at a fair in Edmonton, Alberta, and was heading back to his home in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Over time, Lis marriage declined and they separated. Ken Barker, 51, had recently retired from the RCMP. As passengers fled the bus, Baker continued stabbing and mutilating the body before he was arrested. Li was cuffed and it was over. Vince Li spared Tim McLeans family a lengthy trial. There are no videos of cute kittens riding the Greyhound, but there are clips of beheadings, bus head, bridge collapses and The Border Patrol. Deemed not responsible for the murder due to untreated psychotic schizophrenia, Mr. Li will have his mental health reviewed annually. It was the 30th of July 2008. Passengers riding the bus reported that Vince Weiguang Li jumped on top of 22-year-old Tim McLean and began stabbing him repeatedly before cutting off his head and allegedly consuming some of his flesh. Tim McLean sat on the passenger side by the window. / CBS/AP. Mr Baker, a former church custodian and computer programmer who emigrated from China to Canada in 2001, repeatedly stabbed Mr McLean, who was sitting next to him, before cutting off his head and removing internal organs. The aisle seat beside him was vacant. Li slowly sat down. But the aftermath was awful. 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BETWEEN THE BIKERS NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME BOOK RELEASE, NXIVM THE CRAZY SEX CULT OF KEITH RANIERE, A PRETTY EVIL TALK WITH AUTHOR SUE COLETTA, LAST STATEMENTS FROM THE TEXAS DEATH ROW CHAMBER, ON THE FLOOR NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME BOOK BY GARRY RODGERS. It was left to the system to deal with Vince Li. The bus was bound for Winnipeg, Manitoba and the route was along the Yellowhead Highway and through Saskatchewan. McLeans mother, Carol de Delley, has been outspoken against granting Baker freedom, saying there would be no way to ensure he continued to take his medication. That system is made of people. "The stuff was so stained they couldn't give it back to us," he said. 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