CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. And hes short. But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. It had a long barrel. Facebook gives people the power to. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. And he suggested that we could go to his place. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. This looks black but its actually blue. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. Hes amazing. Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. CINDY: Yep. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. FLOTHE: Horns? Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. So its early in the morning Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? Glenn Flothe, AST. Like a station wagon. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? He seemed really like a pretty good guy. Just him by himself. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. FLOTHE: I hope not. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. Others have never been found. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. CINDY: All right. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. Dont worry. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? CINDY: Yep. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. And do what he pleased with her. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? (inaudible). Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. The FBI had been spot on about everything. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. Handle was brown. John Paulson. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. Im not correct on the times, OK? I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. I always wanted to do dramas. Glenn Flothe, AST. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. CINDY: He just drove by. Required fields are marked *. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. (Sound of pages turning. In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or So he shows up Sunday night, then. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! And who showed you those pictures? They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? CINDY: The same person. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. Thats not all he said, of course. CINDY: Same. Over the last 30 years, Cindy has facilitated more than 100 successful workshops/work sessions, including a dozen all-day . FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. Glenn Flothe, AST. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. "Good riddance to him.". And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. CINDY: Tons Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. He is just so punctual, and he always knows his lines, and hes there to get the job done. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. CINDY: On. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. I really respect that. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. Glenn Flothe. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Way down on the floor. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. It was smooth. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? It was plain. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. FLOTHE: OK. The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? 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She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? FLOTHE: The same person. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. FLOTHE: OK. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. This was a secretive killer who is believed to have taken half of his murders with him to the grave. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? And I said, Fine, no problem.. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. And so, I was guided along very beautifully by them. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? CINDY: Im positive. People either loved it or they hated it. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. He pulled over and I recognized him immediately. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: How did he get in? His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. We all have the same needs. FLOTHE: How did you know this? It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. FLOTHE: An older car. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. CINDY: Thats it. Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. He doesnt mess around. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? It was a red scar No problem. Your email address will not be published. To the left is the basement. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. CINDY: A little moustache. Hes got like frog warts on his face. So, that was nice. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was And he contacts you. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Its a over shirt. Thats why he did it. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. CINDY: Up to the house. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. CINDY: Nope. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. (inaudible) He was right to worry, state officials later said. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? You know, like mine is. FLOTHE: OK. Robert claimed that the teen was trying to blackmail him; he convinced a buddy to give him an alibi, and that was that. FLOTHE: In your face? It had never crossed her mind. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. And it may not even be in there. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. Cause that was the smallest he had. FLOTHE: And about what time was that? His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. CINDY: Um hmm. CINDY: The garage was opened. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. CINDY (cont. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. FLOTHE: OK. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. I operated behind a work persona. The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. CINDY: Yeah. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. CINDY: Um hmm. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. 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